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Bill O'Reilly Wants Terrorists To Hit San Francisco Tuesday, November 15, 2005

Bill O'Reilly was criticizing San Francisco for a recent ballot amendment that doesn't allow the military to recruit in their high schools and on college campuses. The Fox News attack dog thinks the city needs to be attacked by terrorists? Media Matters, one of O'Reilly's archnemisi right now gives a stronger picture. Here's an excerpt:

O'REILLY: Hey, you know, if you want to ban military recruiting, fine, but I'm not going to give you another nickel of federal money. You know, if I'm the president of the United States, I walk right into Union Square, I set up my little presidential podium, and I say, "Listen, citizens of San Francisco, if you vote against military recruiting, you're not going to get another nickel in federal funds. Fine. You want to be your own country? Go right ahead."

And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.

ThinkProgress also had some comments about the situation. They point out that O'Reilly is going to create his LIST of friends and enemies based on their support of the military.

He's an example of why so many things are wrong in this country. Far too many people, particularly our leaders and many of the pundits have the attitude of "if you don't agree with us, you all can just die because we're not going to help you." Pat Robertson is the same way, suggesting God wouldn't help Dover Pennsylvania because they elected to teach intelligent design in the philosophy studies instead of science class. This country shouldn't be about "my or the highway" or "everyman for himself." We're supposed to be more than that. We need to reexamine our own nature and figure out what the ideals really are.

posted by Stithmeister @ 9:23 AM

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At 10:17 AM, Blogger Greymagius said...
Over at Daily Kos they had a listing of O'Reilly's sponsers. Taking a page from the enemy playbook (i.e. GOP & Christian Reich), I emailed about half the list telling them that if they support this kind of trash with advertising dollars then I DON'T support them with my dollars...

The Kos had a good list of sponsers and several email addresses. I looked the rest up via Google. I spent about an hour emailing out. Got a few replies and in one case, replied to their reply. I'm afraid that one letter isn't likely to frighten them, but a small deluge WILL get their attention. I'm currently focusing on Cooper Tires, who's reply was the most smarmy of the lot.

It's not enough to just NOT buy from a company, it's vital that you let them KNOW that you aren't buying and why you are not buying.
You might want to pick your targets. Tempur-Pedic mattresses (another sponser) received a friendly email letting them know that I had bought previously from them and was in the market to buy again. However, I would not buy from them if they were advertisimg and thus supporting Bill O'Reilly.

I suspect that at least part of the current problems with the MSM is that in the 80's & 90's the Religious Reich pulled of a letter writing/Boycott threat coup that caused the ever so cowardly money first media to cave in and become trained in pavlovian servitude. I heartly encourage that EVERYONE send at least one email per week to a congress critter or other supporter/opponent of something you belive in.

... and hey, it makes it much easier for the Bush Brown-shirts to round you up, when they decide to stage their very own 'Krystalnacht'.

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At 6:20 PM, Blogger Cynicus said...
Sorry. i now have the wife at least considering a move to Canada in about 3 years (when the oldest turns 18). i need Rick to provide the letters of transit, so i can't get on the "detain indefinitely" list. No more protest letters from me - i'm going to be the Toby Keith listening yehaw (in appearance) for the next few.

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At 10:10 PM, Blogger Greymagius said...
well, I figure I'm screwed anyhow..

As I had posted earlier, my 62 year old, southern Baptist, Republican mother thinks I might get in trouble for political posting on a board. If *She* thinks it's possible, the real Neo-Cons already have started planning the most effective route to run the bus for picking up 'Wrong Thinkers" for transport to re-education camps. 10 years ago I was running an email signature specifically designed to annoy the email scanning programs they were starting. I figure I'm already on a list. Being old and fat just means they won't bother chasing too hard, figuring rightly that I can't run to fast anyhow.

If we're as F*cked as you (and occasionally I) think, it won't matter. You won't be permitted to leave, due to your medical background (Skilled Citizen Worker). The 'Chosen Elders' will need knowledgable citizens such as yourself to make sure they are cared for. If you're lucky, your eldest will be allowed to follow in your footsteps and learn to care for the next generation of 'Chosen'.

I'm afraid that unless Stithmeister goes Quisling, he'll be on the 'Re-education' list as well. If he can grovel enough, he might get to help run a 'Re-education Camp'. I've known him long enough to guess that that isn't likely. He's possibly more stubborn than my wife, and thats saying a lot!

My wife & I don't have kids, just the 4-footed felons. When they bust in the door, I'll try to give my cats a headstart out a window and cover for my wife as she reminds the Brown-shirts that Ballistic Armor stops bullets, not blades.

Salesmen, such as I, will be un-needed. The company stores will issue what the workers 'Need'. 1,000 Calories a day and an idiot stick will be my fate, until they have enough holes to hide the bodies.

I'm too ornery and set in my ways to be quiet. Turned 40 and let 2 decades of Piss & Vinegar start to flow. My wife is as bad as I am. She'll be spitting in their faceshields and trying to kick them in the balls, when they come to drag me away. As for my family, they're for the most part the Republican 'Toby Keith Ye-haws' you mentioned. The only creatures I'd leave in a lurch are three cats and a not too bright dog. I feel sorta bad about the cats. The dog.. well, she'll get shot when they come for me.

To borrow a quote that you taught me, from a Holocost survivor.
"If the Jews had fought back when the Nazis came for them, it would have been different. When the first Nazi going thru a jewish door was shot, the Nazis would have been shocked, when the 10th Nazi was shot, they'd be angry, when the 100th was shot, they'd been concerned.. when the 1,000th was shot... The Nazis would stop."

And to paraphrase from Mercedes Lackey, "We are all on thin ice right now.. but if you must Cross thin Ice, then DANCE across it!"

If it ever does come to this sad scenario I've played before you, I just hope you and yours are safe and that I've the courage and luck to get my honor guard for Valhalla.

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At 8:08 AM, Blogger Cynicus said...
Actually, that story wasn't a Holocaust survivor, but an Israeli Army colonel interviewed on the somethingth-anniversary of the death of Anne Frank. What he said was (best as i remember, many years later): "She was no hero. That hiding in attics, then going along quietly was what ruined us. Every Jew should have gone to the door with a gun. At ten dead Gestapo, they'd start to wonder. At one hundred, they'd start to sweat. And at a thousand dead Gestapo, they'd knock on no more Jewish doors."

The Holocaust turned a population of Jews into Israelis. Any future "Fourth Reich" has a whole new set of conditions - ain't gonna be so easy the next time........

Oh, and i misunderstood. She meant we could go when the YOUNGEST is 18. That's too many years off to bother with.

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At 10:29 AM, Blogger Greymagius said...
Welcome to the Revolution Comrade!

But... I did note that Canada has some good land deals in the Nova Scotia area and you don't have to be Canadian to buy land. I'm thinking a "Get-Away" cabin in Cnada sounds nice. Just not yet defining what I'm trying to get away from.

Perhaps visit Canada then apply as a 'Visiting Worker/Student', until I get my degree in something listed as a 'Skilled Worker', then apply for citizenship.

Truly be like our founding fathers, leave a corrupt government controlled despotism and move to a new land and start the seeds of freedom blossoming.

You know, if they ever invent viable, cheap space travel, the Meek will truly inherite the earth, cause everyone else will leave.

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